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Do trappers really abuse trapped animals?.
The answer is a yes, most does. If trappers support this hick Tracy Truman even after that animal abuse incidence it means other trappers does it. Supporting something it means either doing it themselves or not caring. This is why trapping has NO animal welfare nor ethics at all. There were these idiotic trappers on their forums and even on my shout box saying there is nothing wrong with what Tracy did so it is obvious they do it themselves.
Some trappers opposed what Tracy did but mostly support what this loser did.
Also trappers saying they will trap more if PETA or other ARA offends them or etc. Is considered animal abuse. I am sure they will bloodily abuse animals. Look Dean Minor the homophobe racist bigot and few other trappers emailed me gory abused animals in traps when they saw my site and or other ARA sites having nothing to do with me. Trappers are worst than hunters, they're zoo sadistic and psychotic hermited wackjobs. Bunch of sick people.
On the news site (inside link) Ethical One / EthicalOne is me.
I am not making profit with this site. I have no adsense. I don't want money from this section. Life worth more.
Evidence that many trappers will abuse and or torture animals on their traplines.
This time NOT from trapperman site but another gruesome thing about trappers abusing trapped animals but using their pets. I should say they abuse their pets to torture animals. Any trappers to me are better off dead. Anyone supporting this act of atrocity deserves to die the most painful way possible. Trappers are evil and THEY need to be HATED as much as possible. I would never EVER feel bad about ANY trappers dying from accidents, cancer, animal attacking them etc because they are all scum of the Earth and you know how much I hate hicks and speciesist scumbags. Whoever did this deserves to die horribly or be used for medical research.
Stupid trappers on Trapperman calls it a sport, and these hicks proven to be the biggest liars ever, they keep bragging by saying we don't kill for sport. GUESS AGAIN FOLKS, they kill for sport, profit, fashion and pleasure.
Read this news and you will know what I am talking about.
At least a right wing on the news had the heart and sense to call this cruelty, abuse and accusing the government.

Lawmaker accuses federal agency of 'stonewalling' attempts to investigate alleged coyote torture
Source : http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/10/republican-lawmaker-accuses-federal-agency-tonewalli........


A Republican congressman is accusing a government agency of "stonewalling" attempts to investigate allegations of animal abuse after graphic photos appeared online showing hunting dogs attacking defenseless coyotes.

The images, allegedly taken by an employee of Wyoming Wildlife Services whose job includes controlling nuisance predators, represent "flat-out animal cruelty," Rep. John Campbell of California said Monday.

Campbell told FoxNews.com that the photos are indicative of widespread problems within the little-known agency -- ranging from possible misuse of taxpayer money to alleged animal abuse of predatory and non-predatory wildlife.

The photos in question were posted by Jamie P. Olson, an employee of Wyoming Wildlife Services, a branch of the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service. The photo album reportedly appeared on Olson's personal Facebook account, which has since been deactivated. The photos include images of dogs snarling at and ripping into live coyotes trapped in steel foot-holes, as well as pictures of coyote carcasses.  

"This is becoming a recurring theme that they are doing some cruel things -- some bad things -- and doing it all with taxpayer money," said Campbell, who, along with Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., is calling for an independent investigation into the "inhumane" practices by Wildlife Services. "They appear to be stonewalling every attempt by everybody to investigate why they're doing it."

"We believe there's kind of a pattern here that this has become almost sport to put out these traps," Campbell continued. "We think there are a lot of non-lethal ways to protect livestock. But instead, they use these leg holes, which are extremely cruel. The animal takes a long time to die."

Campbell also said he has "increasing evidence" of taxpayer money being used for "private purposes," including protecting the livestock of four private ranchers.

"I have cattle myself," Campbell said. "I don't think it's the taxpayer's responsibility to protect my cattle. That's my responsibility."

Both Campbell and DeFazio penned a letter Nov. 30 to Agriculture Secretary Thomas Vilsack calling for a thorough audit of the "culture" within Wildlife Services -- in particular its lethal predator control program -- by the USDA Office of Inspector General.

"We are gravely concerned that photographs, published on Mr. Olson's Facebook in an album labeled "work" and since removed, do not represent an isolated occurrence, but may reflect a deep-rooted problem within the Wildlife Services program that allows for, and encourages, inhumane lethal methods of predator control," the lawmakers wrote.

Wildlife Services spokeswoman Carol Bannerman confirmed Monday that the photos taken by the agency employee are still under investigation. The photos were allegedly posted in an album titled "work," but it remains unclear whether they were taken while Olson was on the job or not. The federal employee, whom Bannerman did not name, remains employed at this time. Olson could not be reached for comment.

Bannerman said if the investigation concludes that animal abuse took place, that "would not be accepted."

"We do take it very seriously," she said. "We have directives that require our staff to use the USDA standards for the removal of animals...To do it quickly with the least amount of stress."

Rep. DeFazio took issue with the USDA's Wildlife Services lethal predator control program, which he said he had been “trying to eliminate ... for over 25 years.

"This program is ineffective, indiscriminate, inhumane, and it has cost the taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars since it was created," he said. "It's incredibly important that we bring the actions of this agency out of the shadows.”

The photos have sparked outrage among several environmental groups critical of the federal government's anti-predator program. The images have also led to an online petition at www.change.org that calls for Olson's termination. 

"Wildlife Services is veiled in secrecy and a culture of cruelty and they hope it will all just go away if they ignore it long enough," the California-based group Project Coyote said Monday. 

In a statement released to FoxNews.com, the Humane Society said it is "horrified by photos posted on Mr. Olson's Facebook page that appear to show a coyote fighting desperately to escape from a steel leg-hold trap while Olson's dogs ripped and pulled the defenseless animal's body apart.

"The photos suggest Mr. Olson was acting in his capacity as a federal employee," said Stephanie Boyles Griffin, senior director of Wildlife Response, Innovations & Services for The HSUS.


Only stupid BRAINLESS hicks will believe in this redneck population control excuses to justify cruelty. Trappers will torture trapped animals, because they love cruelty and love to torture animals because they hate animals. Why trappers support ALL KIND OF BLOODSPORTS, They hunt with hounds support EVERY bloodsport mostly. Trappers are scum of the Earth and I wish to ALL trappers to die horribly just as much I wish rapists, poachers, mass murderers and criminal against humanity to die.
To me trappers and sport hunters, ALL NRA members and ALL USSA members belongs to the same category as mass murderers, rapists, poachers, child rapists, criminal against humanity, Al-Qaedas, Taliban and
religious terrorists. They are people. Or I should say subspecies that I would NEVER empathize, I will never feel bad for any of these worthless trash of the world to die from horrible disease ranging AIDS to Cancer, evem accident and ANY horrible deaths.
I am a type who hates bad people and there is NOTHING wrong against hating bad peole such as
"mentioned above"
Trapper is abusing a wolverine and this stupid inbred hick admited he love to poke it with a stick.
Probably these piece of human waste trappers will say I photoshopped this to defame hick trappers. So guess what it would be hard to say it since I provide evidence and sources. Only stupid hicks will still believe I photoshop it.
I wont put the whole thread because majorities of it is pointless garbage, I will provide the url to it.
DATE: 02-10-12
source : http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3001555/all/An_apology.html
Pic source : http://www.trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2012/02/full-18204-71091-cabin_jesss_visit_wolverine..._037.jpg
#3006610 - 02/10/12 07:14 PM Re: An apology [ Re: HFT AK ]
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I got a bad habit of poking things with sticks. blush



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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 10:17 PM EST
Updated: Jan 20, 2012 10:21 PM EST
Posted By Matt DeLucia, Reporter

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A county wildlife board member is defending a controversial Internet video that displays an encounter between his dog and a trapped bobcat.

The one-minute video has sparked public outrage in the form of malicious comments. The man who shot the video, Tracy Truman, said he has received several threats since the video went viral earlier this week.

Truman has also faced questions from Clark County commissioners.

"I'm surprised about the controversy, yes," said Truman, who is currently on the Clark County Advisory Board to Manage Wildlife.

He posted the video on an Internet forum. It features a bobcat caught in a trap, while Truman is holding the chain. His dog can be seen barking non-stop at the bobcat.

"It was a video that I showed other people what I wanted a dog to do - that is, not make contact with an animal, and do two things - locate it and bark at it. That's all the video did," Truman explained.

After the video began circulating the web, local animal advocates voiced strong opposition.

At one point in the recording, Truman is heard commanding his dog to attack, saying, "Get him, boy."

He says the public is taking the video out of context.

"This has been a witch hunt,' Truman said. "This is started by people who don't want me to serve on the wildlife advisory board. I understand that, and rarely does the witch get an opportunity to make a comment.

Truman did meet with Commissioner Steve Sisolak on Friday morning to share his side of the story.

"I was concerned about that. I don't think it was a good image," Sisolak said, adding that their conversation didn't do much to sway each other's opinion, and they agreed to disagree.

"When you see the animal confined in that trap and being yanked back and forth, and pulled back and forth on his chain, that seems really offensive," said Sisolak.

Truman told FOX5 he is on the advisory board to help the public make an informed opinion on what happens out in the wild, although Sisolak didn't think the video was a good representation from someone who works for the county.

Truman said he put himself through college working as a trapper. He has a license to conduct trapping activities, and he believes some people just don't understand it because they rarely, if ever, witness it with their own eyes.

"People in the public are free to say what they want," Truman noted. "We disagree about politics, we disagree about religion. We certainly disagree about wildlife management."


REALLY DO TRAPPERS ABUSE TRAPPED ANIMALS BEFORE THEY KILL IT?.
I SAID, THE ANSWER IS AN YES!!!!... If you don't believe it then you're an inferior species.

Here are the emails including the headers as evidence from this homophobic racist bigoted hermit Dean Minor.
Emails are on this LINK.

This hick with a username of TrapperAustin is taunting and abusing the Possum with possibly a stranglepoll is hard to tell with the crappy quality.

This sick hick is abusing the fox, provoking it with a stick and forcely pulling it around.

More 2 come
Trappers are ego-hicks who will find excuses to defend themselves by saying those vids are from inexperienced trappers. Even some members of Tman will do the same and they call them inexperienced because people can't memorize 20k members names.
Evidence that most trappers will STILL support this sadistic subspecies Truman.
1 This is the original thread about it before the mods deleted some posts.
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#2965990 - 39 minutes 7 seconds ago wildlife member responds to trapping video
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Registered: 03/14/07
Loc: new mexico
this looks like a mess poor guy


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#2966028 - 14 minutes 33 seconds ago Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
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Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Stronghurst , IL
Shot us all in the foot.

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Jtrapper is a hick with no education who bashes at be for telling the truth. What proof??? Water proof. He should learn proper words before bashing at someone wrongly. IS NOT PROOF IS EVIDENCE... EEEEVVVIIIDDEEEENNNCCEE. Is not being an idiot exposing idiots and these hicks hypocrisy.
#2966032 - 12 minutes 17 seconds ago Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
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PROOF the idiot's monitor this forum as well as other's by reading the comments below that link!




Ethical One
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Also I collect stuff from trappers forums not ARA and it comes to same results that trapping is extremely cruel and sadistic. http://zaxtor.net/Trapping.htm I am not a PETA nor HSUS member. I do support HSUS but I still gather stuff from trappers forums and ARA are right, trapping is cruel and sadistic. I have many pictures from trappers forums and it comes to same as ARA material. It is cruel, Zoosadistic and has blood paws. Trappers are extremely arrogant, abusive and they take that as an offense if you hate trapping, they get more offended than hating their religious belief. I had many death threats from trappers even when I had civil debates with them no flamewars.




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Trapping is NOT humane. Tracy Truman who is the worst animal abuser in the world that needs to be put in the gas chamber for his actions. will show what kind of people trappers are. I had a debate with a trapper and he still love him. After this vid many trappers kisses his behind and calls him "Mr. Truman is a walking Grey Fox encyclopedia. Good stuff." Here is what this hero trappers are kissing at really is. http://www.ktnv.com/news/loca​l/137803658.html Tracy did this cruel act and still denies it. It shows trappers are dishonest and on Tman they're defending him and Dobbins seems to defend him as well. Anyone supporting this inferior scumbag are inferior subspecies egoistical animal hating bigots. Is obvious trapping has NO animal welfare because is trapping. Torture has no welfare or otherwise ancient torturous capital punishment we did on criminal wouldn't be abolished.




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A prosecution and conviction of Mr. Truman for animal abuse, and a hefty fine and permanent revocation of his trappers license should be the minimum for this jerk. The video would certainly leave no doubt in a jury's or judge's mind.




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So what did he do with the bobcat after he called the dog off? Is the bobcat injured? How was the trap holding him/her? If he's trapping to kill, I'd say, "BUSTED!" He shouldn't be on an advisory board to manage wildlife. If he traps and relocates the bobcat to a less populated area, the he would be managing wildlife for its own benefit to prevent it coming in contact with people or domestic animals. I'm not sure this story was covered well.




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Truman should be excluded from any wildlife advisory role. He clearly doesn't understand anything about life of any kind. He doesn't get it. Truman should should have a trap snap shut on his arm, have someone jerk him around by an attached chain, and have a dog attacking him. I have seen animals in leg-hold traps, and understand it perfectly. There is nothing in that video that can be
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#2966036 - 9 minutes 17 seconds ago Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
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Registered: 12/22/06
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beat me to it J i was just ready to post about our buddy zaxter also smile

When reading his posts he just seems like such a calm, gentle guy that must have regular blood pressure LOL.

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Now the version that the mods deleted a few early posts.
#2965990 - Yesterday at 08:34 PM wildlife member responds to trapping video
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Registered: 03/14/07
Loc: new mexico
this looks like a mess poor guy


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#2966028 - Yesterday at 08:59 PM Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
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Loc: Stronghurst , IL
Shot us all in the foot.

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Is amazing how many people are soo UNEDUCATED. Trapping is NOT a right is a privilege. A right does NOT require a permit. Owning a gun goes the same is a privilege not a right because a license is required to own one.
#2966052 - Yesterday at 09:25 PM Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
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trapper

Registered: 03/03/08
Loc: Washington State
Gotta be carefull what you post on the internet, you'll get tons of knee jerk reactions, its the nature of viral information.

We lost our rights here in washington in part to news stories, we were voted out by city slickers in seattletropolis proper.

Again, just be prudent about what you post, some people cant handle the real world.
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Video stolen??? Check this lardo. Is stealing a video of someone commiting an arson stealing?. HYPOCRITES. Trappers often post videos of people without their permittion. Not trapping vids but random and comical vids. You see these hicks are soo egoistical who thinks is ok to steal vids from others and not ok to steal theirs. Donald Alister Mac Leod often posts news that often has can't post on forums without permission. Also they post people's email addy without their permission when they copy it. Posting a video to expose cruelty is NOT stealing is exposing. Trappers are too dishonest to expose their mistakes and errors so only opposition has to do it for them.
Besides trappers are inferior and lack in rights. So nothing wrong with posting their stuff that is considered cruelty
#2966064 - Yesterday at 09:42 PM Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
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Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Goldsboro, North Carolina
And folks wonder why we censor what is posted. This video was originally posted on here and stolen from here. I don't recall seeing it, but our anti pervs saw it....

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#2966093 - Yesterday at 10:36 PM Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
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Registered: 05/30/11
Loc: Stronghurst, Illinois
Can't stress enough the importance of thinking before you post. As was mentioned on the post that was on here about this earlier today, people, we need to remember, that no matter how strongly we believe in the righteousness and correctness of what we do, we are in the MINORITY. Millions of Americans can see the things posted on youtube, and things posted here can, as happened here, be stolen from here and posted there. And those people viewing it on youtube are not seeing the whole story, but only a small fraction of it. And those people are the ones who will be casting a vote on a ballot initiative when it comes to YOUR state.
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#2966111 - Yesterday at 11:24 PM Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
dayn Offline
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Registered: 03/03/08
Loc: Washington State
Well put Paul and Yotetrapper, I guarantee you, we are never going to get it back here in washington, they dont even try during the legislative session anymore.
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#2966113 - Yesterday at 11:25 PM Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
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Registered: 03/03/08
Loc: Washington State
I guess my point was, once you lose it, you probably wont get it back.
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Is a hermit. He was the original member who had the idea to privatize trapperman site. Trappers are cowards. Ashamed of themselves, low self-esteem and not proud trappers. Also my favorite part... THEY'RE HERMITS.
#2966170 - Today at 03:02 AM Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
Tim Wilcox Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Silver Springs, NY
Paul with events like this why can't the site go private so only registered members can see the content ?
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Is more like a powerful sadistic cult.
#2966194 - Today at 03:26 AM Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: Tim Wilcox ]
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Registered: 11/03/11
Loc: iowa
just ask the trappers from colorado--barely lost, but lost they did--could say alot more,but wont-- not a knock against the CTA--particapation and joining yyour trapper organizations is a powerful tool
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Living under a rock like ring makes his computer knowledge soo deathly limited. Yep free information to expose they hypocrite hermits.
#2966235 - Today at 04:37 AM Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
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trapper

Registered: 04/28/09
Loc: Illinois
Just because you can don't mean you should!!!! I am with Tim on this Paul we have people on this site that have very little in their profile and was wondering if there might be some way to close ranks,but still be able to make it were new members could access. I know very little about computer programs ,and I am not even going to try and guess what you have to deal with every day, but we give so much information out to the antis for free. I know it still would not stop everything, but it just might slow it down a lot. The funny thing I notice is how all this crap comes to light right about the time the legislative process starts to take place in most states,this is not all by chance folks..........RT
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#2966256 - Today at 04:58 AM Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: dayn ]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Texas Hill Country
Originally Posted By: dayn
I guess my point was, once you lose it, you probably wont get it back.


And if you don't believe that, just ask a Native American !
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I am sure he eat potato salads too so his IQ must be low. These hicks bashes at vegetarians and vegan but they eat veggies too.
#2966260 - Today at 05:03 AM Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
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Registered: 10/16/08
Loc: Western, MI
Where has all the common sense gone? I mean seriously, some people have the I.Q. of potato salad.
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#2966291 - Today at 05:28 AM Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
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Registered: 12/18/10
Loc: DELAWARE
Now a days, I am like the Amish or Jack Nicholson when it comes to being photographed or videod.

Just think of everything being distorted/photoshopped and put into some kind of gay porn. Yes, paranoid to a point.

Think of all the big companies/names that have lost respect by a twitter, facebook or u-tube post.

Just like anything, if you aren't helping, your hurting.

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Training a hound to hunt is animal abuse and involves animal cruelty. Why trappers have live markets. They traumatize animals, abuse them and torture them. K9man is an idiot using random words without knowing. Cruelty means abusing, inflicting pain such as trapping and chasing animal with hounds. Bloodsports is animal cruelty. Treating an animal like a human is not cruelty unless you use stuff that is safe on people but harmful to animals.
#2966375 - Today at 06:30 AM Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: RJ Cooper ]
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trapper

Registered: 02/02/09
Loc: West Coast of lower MI
This is a prime example of why I have always asked members on this site why they feel so compelled to post trapping experiences on Youtube? It is just asking for trouble. Most don't understand the ramifications of their actions. You aren't going to educate the public in a positive manner by doing that. The vids are too short to give the public full context of the situation. All I can ask is that all of you stop posting your trapping experiences on Youtube, and for goodness sake use a great deal of caution about answering PMs if the newbie is asking some potentially troubling questions. Maybe I'm paranoid but I don't trust anybody - not even my mother.

Mr. Truman just got railroaded in this case. Most of the general public doesn't understand what it takes to properly train a hound to hold an animal at bay so none of the animals involved gets injured and they never will. How could they, they give their pets human qualities and treat them like they are human. That to me is animal cruelty.
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This hermit is refering as calling everyone living in city as dumb. Some trappers live in city too so they call them dumb too. I lived in the country for many years so I know a LOT about the country. Trappers live in farm lands and probably have sex with goats and cows. If he loves to slander I can slander too.
#2966390 - Today at 06:38 AM Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
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Registered: 04/20/11
Loc: South Dakota
I love the comments at the bottom. ( Ethical One ) doesnt seem to know what he/she is talking about, gotta love some dumb city folk

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This idiot still kisses Truman's asses. Maybe we should tie up aaron32 and a bear and let the bear taunt and scare him to see how it feels. If is inhumane to do that to people then is inhumane to do that to animals. I believe Tracy Truman should be put to death in the gas chamber. Firstly having bears chasing Truman then bobcats attacking him and then every other animals he abused all his sad miserable short life mauling him for all his abusive actions.
#2966435 - 50 minutes 12 seconds ago Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: EJones94 ]
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trapper

Registered: 06/03/07
Loc: pennsylvania
the bad part about this that i see is all you guys are bashing him as well instead of backing him...when are you people going to learn that you can NEVER make everyone happy...i for one think Mr.truman handled this whole situation in a professional manner and would be proud to walk beside him to show support...

this is the problem here with the "GROUP" of sportsman these days...the sports are like religions all segregated...if we would all stick togather as "sportsman" in a whole we would have a better chance at winning some battles....but no just because i trap the ring neck hunters dont like me because i may catch thier dog...but they dont think about the service im doing for them by managing the predators that eat thier birds and eggs....we have to learn how to just own up and realize that about 90% of the population of sportsman is all about " THEMSELVES
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This idiot with no real friends accept people using him for his hobby thinks this prick Truman made a mistake. He did it on PURPOSE and probably will repeat it again and again.
#2966486 - 19 minutes 59 seconds ago Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
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Registered: 06/27/10
Loc: wisconsin
GOOD JOB AARON!!!!!!! Believe me when I tell you that the anti's love a post like this. For everyone of you that say you would never post anything thing like Tracy did and how bad he hurt the sport you just hurt the sport yourself. You think because you posted a comment on a trapping forum its going to be ok? Well you just made the same mistake Tracy did...

I will support Tracy just like any other trapping brother. If i feel he made a mistake I will take it up with him on a personal level but in public you will se no backlash from me. I enjoy this site as do many others it is used by most as a place to meet with like minded folks but it is also used by the antis to gather ammo so don't be afraid to post but just remember they are watching and everything we do will be held against us by folks like them.
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Indeed hick Truman didn't make a mistake he did it on purpose.
#2966487 - 18 minutes 14 seconds ago Re: wildlife member responds to trapping video [ Re: TravC ]
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Registered: 04/09/07
Loc: Central Ohio
He didn't make a mistake...
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Picture of a tortured wolf goes viral on the net and possible it comes from Trapperman website
Why I call trappers animal haters?
Because they ARE animal haters, they torture animals on their traplines.
These hicks obsess on hating on wolves and they even cheat polls (polls that do not reflect anything) to win by fraudulent so they can hunt and torture wolves on their traplines. I found this when I saw a ragy thread saying
"Anti's Use Photos From Trapperman"... the site using it was called Wildland fire website. Some website about dealing with forest fires or something. Firefighters website.
I will provide source.
Mod deleted the "anti" website from the post. This inbred savage hick says it makes him mad of how they could do this to a person?????? PERSON?. Is the wolf was tortured on the trap not this stupid inbred hick. Trapping HAS NO ANIMAL WELFARE. And these stupid hicks says trapping is a conservation tool. More a torture tool.
In their egoistical views if you don't trap or hate trapping you're not a conservationist. I see many conservationist helping species that do NOT trap. I don't talk about these government idiots who put money before everything.
Trappers are poachers, they support poachers and organizations trying to exploit critically endangered Hawksbill sea turtle and claiming they dwell in tens of millions. ALL marine turtles are endangered species. None are LC.
Stupid hick trappers obsess on pro-use to the point they will support poachers. They say to preserve an endangered species you must exploit it. Look at these hicks in Texas having private ranch to hunt an Oryx species extinct in the wild. To them they breed only to hunt them in ranches not reintroducing them back to nature.
Now back to topic the reason these hicks obsess on wanting to trap wolves is so they torture them.
They even used trapped wolves as target practice. People like that I don't care if accidents happens to them.
Source: http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3104099/Anti_s_Use_Photos_From_Trapper.html
#3104099 - Today at 09:35 AM Anti's Use Photos From Trapperman
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I found this on a wildland fire website that I look at. Makes me mad that they would do this to a person.

http :// wildfiretoday.com/2012/04/02/fire-management-officer-pictured-with-live-trapped- wolf/
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#3104121 - Today at 09:49 AM Re: Anti's Use Photos From Trapperman [ Re: joshKS ]
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And this surpised you?
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#3104129 - Today at 09:57 AM Re: Anti's Use Photos From Trapperman [ Re: BigBob ]
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Didnt say it suprised me.
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#3104183 - Today at 10:40 AM Re: Anti's Use Photos From Trapperman [ Re: joshKS ]
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Loc: Minocqua, WI
Saw it posted on Face Book....I'm sure they'll use it until the next big thing comes along
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#3104491 - Today at 02:20 PM Re: Anti's Use Photos From Trapperman [ Re: BlueRat ]
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No kidding there.
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Yes their lying excuse to take on healthy and leave the sick out there or abuse animals, shave off their fur and make them look like they have mange (for more check here).
Pretty selfish when humans does it on purpose by overpopulating and getting away with it.
#3104507 - Today at 02:33 PM Re: Anti's Use Photos From Trapperman [ Re: joshKS ]
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So start a thread of mother nature and how cruel it is I'm sure you would get hundreds of coyotes & fox managed up. Coons with distemper,ect then we could stick it up top so every time they get on here snooping around they would remember those pictures and maybe think, am I really doing the right thing, am I on the wrong side of this fight? Just a thought
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#3104584 - 20 minutes 7 seconds ago Re: Anti's Use Photos From Trapperman [ Re: backwoodsbarry ]
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Think before you post pictures, stories, or opinions. The nut jobs watch this site and we all need to do our job to promote trapping as the responsible solution to wildlife population control.

Just last week I posted prayers and some well wishing to a friend with a health issue on this site and got hate mail in my email with in 5 mins. There are some nutty people out there- don't help them to make us look bad.
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A connection between abusing animals on trapline and mangy animals in WHERE they trap. In place they don't trap has no mangy disease....... Hmmmm fishy. This stupid ass hick just revealed something the public don't want to see.. Why trappers obsess on pro-use?,
Why trappers cheat-polls,
Why trappers obsess on trapping soo much?
Why trappers value trapping above human lives?
Why trappers trap mostly healthy animals?
Why trappers are extremely apathy?
Why trappers are hermit and calls truth tellers liars?
Also trappers abuse animals on their trapline and hicks like NTA says nothing wrong with it.
Most trappers says nothing wrong with abusing animals on trapline??????
Live markets which is extremely cruel and barbaric.
No animal welfare in trapping?????
This loser saying the ARA will take the pic and manipulate it???
Trappers says I photoshop trapped animals to gorier pics and as soon I show evidence they say I hacked Tman.
Trappers acts like pricks and idiots on purpose.
So the answer in my theory because many abuse animals is. There can be two answer for this thing....
1, Trappers trap mostly the healthy animals and leave the sick to make the healthy animals sick so they
can use this excuse to continue trapping the healthy. Canidae species existed for very long and
never self-genocided. Plus trappers trap healthy species with ZERO disease rate such as the fisher
and wolverine. They claim they keep their number healthy which is BS. These stupid hicks does it for the money and will REFUSE to reintroduce them back to endangered places such as many parts
of Europe, Canada such as Labrador, Quebec and etc.
2, Will be an interesting answer and probably the right one since trappers abuse animals on their
traplines and says nothing wrong with it. So is obvious trappers will abuse an healthy animal, shave
some of their fur off, neglect it, beat it and more. Neglected pets looks VERY like animals with
mange. Trappers stomp, beat, strangle and whack the animal. So it has a connection with this act of
fraudulent. Trappers will beat the animal and make it sick and look like it has mange and get away
with their crimes against nature. To me people doing that sould be shot or used for drugs and
chemical testing because is horrific. I will NEVER sympathize with people like that. Besides
trappers always wish nontrappers to die of cancer and or they say they deserve it.
#3104609 - 8 minutes 31 seconds ago Re: Anti's Use Photos From Trapperman [ Re: backwoodsbarry ]
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Loc: Kodiak, Alaska
Originally Posted By: backwoodsbarry
So start a thread of mother nature and how cruel it is I'm sure you would get hundreds of coyotes & fox managed up. Coons with distemper,ect then we could stick it up top so every time they get on here snooping around they would remember those pictures and maybe think, am I really doing the right thing, am I on the wrong side of this fight? Just a thought



They would just take the mange pic and claim some trapper caught this poor coyote or fox and shaved it, starved it, beat it, and released it to make it look like there was a mange epidemic.

They have been stealing pics and videos for a long time. Before I found Trapperman through their advertising I actually learned some trapping techniques from their propaganda.
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Fire Management Officer pictured with live, trapped wolf
Now the side of this website. Let see what they have to say about this picture as they claim one of them is a wolf abuser.
Is obvious one of their member or former member is a member of trapperman because how they knew about it soo fast?
Source: http://wildfiretoday.com/2012/04/02/fire-management-officer-pictured-with-live-trapped-wolf/
Posted on April 2, 2012 by Bill Gabbert

A few days ago I saw some headlines in news stories about photos of a live, trapped wolf. I didn't read them until today when I  found out that a wildland firefighter was involved. According to the articles, Josh Bransford, Fire Management Officer on the Red River Ranger District of the Nez Perce National Forest in Idaho, is in a photo that shows him smiling in front of a live wolf caught in a leg-hold trap. The snow around the wolf is bloody, as a result of the leg being caught in the trap, or from it being wounded as several people shot it while it was trapped.

I will not post the photo of the wolf, but it has gone viral around the internet. HERE and HERE are samples of some of the articles with the photos.


7 THOUGHTS ON “ FIRE MANAGEMENT OFFICER PICTURED WITH LIVE, TRAPPED WOLF ”

  1. kelly on April 2, 2012 at 11:13 am said:

    oh dear.
    “former” FMO?

    I do not support the anti-trapping groups or their tactics. I reluctantly agree that what he did was not illegal. But it was stunningly boneheaded.

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    • Tanya Wolfman on April 3, 2012 at 12:16 pm said:

      sickening that you think there is nothing wrong with that. you people make me very sick. if it were you in that trap you would cry, do you think that the wolf feels any less pain then you? I don't think, so . you are very heartless and ignorant.

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Annie Sousa on April 2, 2012 at 7:05 pm said:

What this man is doing to this poor animal is depraved. They are sick people performing sickening acts. How can anyone get such obvious pleasure out of watching such suffering and torture of this animal? Its bad enough to shoot an animal for fun, but to sit and pose in front of an injured, frightened animal is beyond comprehension. I feel pity for the wife and children of this sick man. He is obviously a bully and a thug. If he can get such pleasure out of watching something suffer this way, what does mean for the way he treats his wife and children.

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  • kelly on April 2, 2012 at 10:20 pm said:

    Dear Annie,
    I'll bet you don't like medium-rare venison backstrap either, do ya?
    “depraved, sick, sickening, suffering, and torture” is not the point here. “bully and a thug” and his wife and children really outs you. Are you sure you're on the right website?

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Leo on April 2, 2012 at 8:18 pm said:

OOOPS

We have yet another leadership problem in the ranks of FMO's.

I can just imagine the training officers of this young man……I would be shaking my head or trying to shake this from my organization or at the very least 1 year subtracted from his 37-57 fire pension for an illustrious move as this. Sensitivities aside….mind where the camera is pointing!!

Lead Follow and Get the Hell out of the way of this one!!

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  • Tanya Wolfman on April 3, 2012 at 12:19 pm said:

    needs to be fired. Stupid man. Must feel big to be having his picture taken in front of a helpless animal. Ya he is the beast. Disgusting is the only thing he is.

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This idiot thinks is barbaric to hunt for survival. We we're like that in the caveman era.
So to these hick sportsmen is ok to hunt for sport, torture animals on PURPOSE but not ok to hunt for survival.
So that means hunters hunting for food are savages?
Hick sportsmen are wolf-hating bigot and invented this stupid thing "big bad wolf" and demonizing wolves.
Each states they dwell in hundreds to thousands and they want to wipe them out. Trappers are more than horrible.
OCR on April 2, 2012 at 11:57 pm said:

Annie, how can anyone get such obvious pleasure out of watching such suffering and torture of elk and elk calves, being killed by wolves, in the Park?

A tourist attraction, I believe it's called…

It sure wouldn't attract me.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Wolves_and_elk.jpg/1280px-Wolves_and_elk.jpg

Run, till they can run no more, then eaten alive as blood loss slowly causes death.

Yeah, that's what it's called… a tourist attraction… would that attract you?

OCR

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Photos of live, trapped wolf prompt threats to Missoula-based group

Source: http://www.greatfallstribune.com/article/20120330/NEWS01/203300316/Photos-live-trapped-wolf-prompt-threats-Missoula-based-group


A photo downloaded from an online trapping forum shows an Idaho trapper posing in front of a wolf that was caught in a foot-hold trap and then allegedly shot at by bystanders. Missoula-based anti-trapping group members say they received death threats after posting the photo on their Facebook page. PHOTO COURTESY EARTH ISLAND JOURNAL.

HELENA — A Missoula-based anti-trapping organization said it received a threatening email this month after the group posted graphic photos on the Internet of a live Idaho wolf caught in a foot-hold trap.

Anja Heister, executive director of Footloose Montana, on March 22 posted a series of photos gleaned from an online trapping forum called Trapperman.com on her personal and Footloose Montana Facebook sites.

Heister said she opened Footloose Montana's email inbox on Monday and found what she believed to be a death threat directed at family members of the organization:

"I would like to donate (sic) a gun to your childs (sic) head to make sure you can watch it die slowly so I can have my picture taken with it's (sic) bleeding dying screaming for mercy body. YOU WILL BE THE TARGET NEXT BITCHES!" the message read.

Heister said the email was in response to the group posting photos of a northern Idaho trapper's March 18 wolf kill, which was detailed on the online trapping forum.

The photos show trapper Josh Bransford, a fire management officer for the Nez Perce National Forest, kneeling and smiling for the camera as a wolf he caught in a foot-hold trap stands behind him in a ring of blood-soaked snow. Another photo shows a close-up of the wolf's paw caught in the trap. A third photo shows the trapper posing with his catch.

Heister said Footloose Montana, which is actively campaigning to ban trapping in Montana, has received plenty of hostile emails and phone calls since 2007 but never anything that rose to this level.

"It has a cumulative effect on your psyche," Heister said. "I'm not easily scared, but when I read this I got really concerned."

Heister said she reported the threatening email to local and federal law enforcement officials. Missoula Police Sgt. Travis Welch confirmed the department received the report of the malicious email and that it was assigned to an investigator, but he declined to comment further.

In an online blog on Earth Island Journal's website, writer James William Gibson recounted what Bransford — who goes by the handle "Pinching" — wrote about the photos. Bransford's post has since been removed.

"I got a call on Sunday morning from a FS (Forest Service) cop that I know. You got one up here," the post said, and then continued, "there was a crowd forming. Several guys had stopped and taken a shot at him already," the post read, according to Gibson.

According to Bransford the wolf was a 100-pound male with "no rub spots" making an "good wall hanger."

Bransford did not return calls or emails seeking comment Thursday.

As of late Thursday the photos posted on Footloose Montana's Facebook page had received nearly 900 comments. Online commenters on both the Earth Island Journal and the Footloose Montana Facebook page expressed outrage over the photos. Many viewers were angry Bransford posed for a portrait with the wounded wolf before killing it.

Dave Linkhart, spokesman for the National Trappers Association, said there's nothing wrong with a trapper posing with his catch before killing the animal.

"You pose with a successful catch just like you do with a successful hunt," Linkhart said. "People make the problem of attributing human feelings and emotions to these animals."

Linkhart claimed trapped animals don't suffer, so taking the time to shoot a photograph does not cross ethical boundaries.

"If you look at the trap — across the pad of the foot like that — if you were to release the animal it would walk away like nothing happened," Linkhart said.

Marc Bekoff is a former professor of ecology and evolutionary biology at the University of Colorado, Boulder and fellow of the Animal Behavior Society who has studied the social behavior of wolves and coyotes, among other animals.

"That wolf was suffering immeasurably. Not only physically by having his foot locked in a trap, but also being shot at," said Bekoff, the author of several books on animal psychology and emotion. "This was not hunting. This was having an animal having its foot smashed in trap and then shooting at it with bullets. This wolf was tortured."

Linkhart said if the wolf was shot at, that isn't the trapper's fault.

"Somebody else came up there and shot that animal first. That is illegal. What the trapper has done here is not," Linkhart said. "The problem was not the trap. It was the illegal activity of the hunters who shot at that wolf."


Trappers are apathy and they say there is nothing wrong with torturing animals. NTA also support poachers that wants to harvest the critically endangered Hawksbill turtle.
Source : http://mtlowdown.blogspot.ca/2012/03/photos-of-tortured-wolf-draw-death.html
Maybe if we do the same to Dave Linkhart the dumb hick. I will say there is nothing wrong with doing that to him. I dehumanize trappers because they're horrible people and I will never feel bad for one dying of a disease or accident.
Dave Linkhart, spokesman for the National Trappers Association , said there's nothing wrong with a trapper posing with his catch before killing the animal.
Dave is full of crap and trappers don't feel guilty toward animals, animals to them are things that do not feel pain.
These traps are descent of "mantraps" traps used on humans. Why they banned it? Because is cruel.
If trap would close loosely animal would slip out. Traps has to close tight enough to cause visible or non-visible injuries. This is what traps causes in general (HERE) painful injuries and more. Source : from many trappers sites.
Trapping is a CULT. Trappers are very apathy and they hate animals. If someone traps is because they're zoosadists and hate animals. Trappers are the worst people on Earth.
Linkhart claimed trapped animals don't suffer, so taking the time to shoot a photograph does not cross ethical boundaries.


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Trappers abuse animals and uses inhumane dispatching and since this site was launched they hide it by PM
beside people wearing fur looks stupid and uncivil.
Hypocrisy from trappers majorities of their fur goes on polyester coat's trim. Petroleum coat with real fur trim.
Stupid hicks says fake-fur is eco-unfriendly, polyester is eco-unfriendly but is eco-friendly if it has real fur on it.
Bunch of hypocrites and beside real fur takes a lot of energy to gather / process and ship.
Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1366983/How-ethical-fur-fashion-industrys-cynical-yet.html

Cruel: The undercover footage shows a fox flailing in a leg-hold trap. When the trapper arrives, he crushes the fox by kneeling on its chest. The animal's ribs can be heard popping as the trapper discusses what its pelt is worth.
Was browsing my computer's saved pictures for evidence and looky here what I have found. I checked the pic's link and original pic still exist. Is a stupid inbred hick abusing a trapped fox by pulling its tail and probably taunting it too. Like all trappers does, they ALL abuse animal on their trap lines. People like that don't deserves to live in my opinion. I will never empathize with a trapper nor feel bad for anything bad happening to these hicks.
Only will post his post because the rest is useless garbage saying nice shots and BS like that. The 3rd picture.
I am sick and tired of these stupid inbred inferior hicks trappers saying they care for animals which they don't.
I don't call it caring for animals if they abuse them, use them and trap more animals if we anger hick trappers.
Caring for an animal is loving it, not killing it for no reason. Caring for an animal is leaving healthy animal alone.

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